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Re: Suggestions

From: Jie Bao <baojie@cs.iastate.edu>
Date: Tue Jun 06 2006 - 02:38:09 CDT

I didn't remove those sections. I checked the history of the page and
found no change of that. Maybe you forget to save.
http://boole.cs.iastate.edu:9090/COB/PageInfo.jsp?page=Ato

Peter and I will have a list of bugs/needed features a week from Jun
15, including your suggestions. Hopefully we will have a stable
version by the end of this summer with full documentation.

On 6/1/06, Zhiliang Hu <zhu@iastate.edu> wrote:
> Hi Jie,
>
> Please see my follow up below.
> (BTW, did you remove the "SUGGESTION 5&6" from your tracking site? -
> they are gone)
>
> At 06:12 AM 6/1/2006, Jie Bao wrote:
> >On 5/31/06, Zhiliang Hu <zhu@iastate.edu> wrote:
> >>Jie and Peter,
> >>
> >>I added following feature requests to your tracking site. I copy them
> >>below for reference of everyone:
> >>
> >>* SUGGESTION 5:
> >>The main utility of the ATO Editor is to edit "relationships". At
> >>the meantime
> >>the Users wish to annotate the terms as well. Would it be possible that the
> >>Terms "descriptions", "definitions", "Units", etc. be given a larger editing
> >>window? I think this is a practically feature users want and it does not
> >>involve much "ontology" works, but definitely adds value to it.
> >
> >It is already feasible using "details" panel. meta data such as
> >"descriptions", "definitions", "Units" can be defined in the ontology
> >schema and be specified for each ontology term.
>
> I recall this is a feature we have talked about before. Perhaps I failed
> to convey my ideas clearly :) What I am trying to describe is, users like
> me are sometimes get confused, I am afraid it would not be straight forward
> to convince new users that it's "easy to use" :) Okey, here I have more
> details for the editing panels -- may I suggest:
>
> 1. Set the "line panels" as default, and fix the order of panels as:
> - Upper class
> - Class (term)
> - Lower class
> - Details
> (floating positions is a fun but often confuse people ;-)
>
> 2. Delete "Node Statistics", which I see little use.
>
> 3. I don't see a "details" panel but there is a "Property" panel -- I guess
> this was what you meant.
> (1) Within the "property" panel, could you put a fixed table with
> property/detail
> (filled when there is data; or an empty table otherwise).
> (2) Users are often lost as WHEN this can be edited. Could a button be
> added within this panel called "Edit" which effectively check out the
> related parts from database for editing? (I know you may argue about
> it but let's call if there is a disagreement ;-).
>
> 4. The "check out" function is not obvious to use (currently use "right click"
> on "Edit the package" (could this be changed to "check out for edit"?)
> I suggest a "check out for edit" button be placed on the "left button bar"
>
> Actually to use the "left button bar" for most of the "right click" menu
> would help Mac users a lot because Mac mouse has only a single clickable part
> but I don't want to drag this too far at the moment :)
>
>
> >>* SUGGESTION 6:
> >>To open up channels for the ATO project to be portable to the community,
> >>one would wish to easily download the ontology works for their own sake.
> >>A utility may be very useful to export the current ontology into
> >>(1) Flat files in the format of hierarchy; (2) SQL-ready format for database
> >>upload.
> >(1) The editor now support OBO format. Do you mean to support
> >exportation as a tree in plain text?
>
> Correct. This is for the novice users' sake (helps to get the community ;-)
> Maybe Peter/LaRon can do this easily? It only needs some postgres SQL.
>
>
> >(2) Could be. However, there may be some diffculties, since we use
> >"oid" to indentify each term and relation, while oid is
> >database-depedent. Since we can also import a OBO format file, the
> >"upload" is already feasible.
>
> What I have in mind is the GO download db tables format. But this is
> a minor for the moment. We can add support to different formats as
> we go forward.
>
> One more -):
>
> SUGGESTION 7:
> There is waiting time while the editor is talking to a remote database.
> During this "silent time" user often get confused as if the button clicked
> "does not work", so s/he may click it again, or again, which adds more
> network requests. Sometimes this waiting time can be quite long.
>
> Can a pop up window, or an animated icon in the tab, be added to indicate
> it's "talking to database" or "busy" during the waiting time?
>
> Zhiliang
>
>

-- 
Jie Bao
Received on Tue Jun 6 02:38:03 2006

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